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Wednesday, June 06, 2018 3:23 pm
This attack can only have occurred in an environment in which decisions are made based on the ability to control the media – not the facts.
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Monday, June 04, 2018 12:00 am
ANNOUNCEMENT: April Results for 911TAP Petition Project
If you are serious about achieving justice for the victims of 9/11 and its aftermath, an end to the wars, and full restoration of our civil liberties, then you should sign the 911TAP petition right now, right here:
https://www.911tap.org/join-us/sign-the-petition/
911TAP is the only 9/11 Truth organization targeting the grass roots of America under a comprehensive, thoroughly-vetted Strategic Plan. The plan does not rely on the goodwill of anyone in the U.S. Government, whether President, Congress, or Judicial System. Our objective is to achieve political power for the 9/11 Truth movement by TAKING political power, lawfully and peacefully, not by asking for it.
Part of our approach for doing this is captured in Paragraph 5.2 of the plan:
"5.2. Achieve a rapid growth of 9/11 Truth political power through surging 9/11 Truth Action Project petition and membership sign-ups, persistent, large turnouts at political events, and high-volume direct communications with office holders and candidates for office."
The Truth movement is not yet ready to take to the streets and town halls in large numbers. The 911TAP petition is part of the means for getting us ready. When you sign the petition, be sure to select the "Local Action" box and we will help you with materials and support to get active where you live. When the thousands of Truthers on Facebook make this step to real-world action, we will be well on our way to victory.
On April 30, 2018 there were 3,087 signers of the 911TAP petition. The April position breakdown is unchanged from the previous monthly rankings, except for some small moves with Washington re-taking the number 4 position and Massachusetts moving up to number 6. Oregon increased its lead and remains in the top spot, while New York keeps its position at number 2. The following list has the full top-10.
Oregon 1142
New York 396
California 248
Washington 131
Arizona 129
Massachusetts 83
Florida 81
Texas 54
Colorado 48
Pennsylvania 44
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The 911TAP Strategic Plan can be found here:
https://www.911tap.org/publications/911tap-strategic-plan
Trina Maria talking about TAP..
https://youtu.be/iG2QJYBKy5A
Can't pull up any links provided. Server not found. Wth. Would like to sign.
Trumps political agenda is based around the "fake news" mantra. He also promised to lift the lid on 9/11 but this is highly unlikely. ARE YOU CONCERNED that your push for truth will be caught up in trumps lies?
Rob Denne so why didn't Obama lift the lid on this so called 911 truth. he had 8 years.
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The petition had a bit over 100 new signatures in April. That is roughly an average month in 2018 so far. And down from 2017. Should be very much up.
At that pace, you will reach the 1st-year goal of 32,000 in a bit over 20 years.
Little use to talk about Trump then!
To the page creator, would you be interested in new information that could possibly really help spread awareness?
To drive my point home:
At the beginning of 2017, the petition had 240 signatures.
The Petition Project had a target for the end of 2017 of 32,000 signatures. This means you needed an average of about 87 signatures per day.
The petition still has a target of 1 million (!) till then end of 2020. This would have meant an average over 4 years of 685 signatures per day, or (for going from 32,000 to 1 million in 3 years) of 884 signatures. Per day.
Obviously, you planned on starting slower, but then picking up more and more pace. Exponential growth, in one word. In the last year then, you would have to average substantially more than 900 per day.
I took it upon myself to calculate the growth rates you would have needed to be on target, and fed a spreadsheet with actual numbers and track to target.
For the first year, you would have to have an exponential growth rate of 13,233% (thirteenthousandsomething), which is 32000/240. Which is about 50% per month: get to 360 at the end of January, 540 at the end of February, 810 at the end of March, etc. Thus, in March you should have collected something like 270 signatures. 8.7 per day. You had 6.4. Not far off. But that should have increased from month to month: By September 2017, you should have collected ca. 100 signatures every day - you got less than 2!
This was when I started warning you that you are catastrophically failing your project.
Assuming that you HAD reached 32,000 signatures by 2018/01/01, then the %-growth rate to get to 1 million would have been more modest at 215% annually, which corresponds to a bit more than tripling the total number each year, or growing by about 10% each month. Thus, you would have needed (again) a bit over 100 signatures daily in January 2018 - you got 0.6!!!
Now we come to April: If you were on target, you would have collected 4200 signatures in the month of April - you got only 112 - that's not even 3% of what it should have been. Your total should have been approaching 47,000 - or up almost 17,000 since the beginning of 2018 - but in fact you only have 3,087 - less than 7% of your way to the target. And you are only yet on the slow part of an exponential curve! Attached is a graphic comparing how you did so far (end of May - a flat line, practically), and what your curve SHOULD look like if you achieved the exponential growth you need.
By all indications, your petition is not growing exponentially AT ALL, it is only growing linearly, at a pathetic 5 or less signatures per day. With 942 days left, you are on track to reaching no more than 8,000 signatures when the 4 years are over. That's 0.8% of target.
You need to very clearly communicate to your volunteers and supporters that your Petition Project WILL most definitely FAIL totally. You owe it to them! The smart thing is to cut your losses, stop the project TODAY, and think of something better to do with your resources. If you continue, you only continue to document the abject impotence of at least your group, if not the Truth Movement at large.
9/11 Truth Action Project
Sunday, June 03, 2018 2:23 am
If you parrot the Official Narratives, you have little to worry. Those who are at risk are the deep-truth tellers, the courageous souls who do not blindly accept at face value the lies and distortions propagated by the oligarchy and their public-facing puppets.
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Get this shit off the 9/11 pages. We have a hard enough time talking about 9/11 without emboldening the right-wingers who try to piggyback of of it.
You will get no closer to the truth if you have Kevin Barrett (no muslim hijackers & no plane hit Pentagon), Jeremy Rothe-Kushel (no plane hit pentagon or shanksville) or Alan Sabrosky (jew blamer only for 9/11)
You will get no further than this. Not one step.
Very good initiative, keep up the good work.
The following is a very shocking story that has not been fully reported. It is a long story, but VERY important!
Starting in about 1997 the FBI began an investigation and conducted wiretaps of targets were suspected of being intelligence officers under diplomatic cover in the Turkish Embassy and the Israeli Embassy. It was those contacts that led to the American Turkish Council (ATC) and the Assembly of Turkish American Associations and then to AIPAC fronting for the Israelis. It moved forward from there. It included the Turkish Consulate in Chicago, the company named Giza Technologies and other targets primarily foreigners suspected of espionage or other crimes.
Giza Technologies was (is?) a New Jersey import-export business and its manager Zeki Bilman was wiretapped by the FBI. His company bought devices used in nuclear weapons that could not be legally shipped to Pakistan, but these devices were secretly ship to South Africa and forwarded onto Pakistan. Former CIA officers state that this company is most likely a Turkish or Israel front company run by Turkish or Israeli intelligence.
In 1999, this FBI investigation progressed and led to wiretapping US congressmen. The epicenter of a lot of the foreign espionage activity was in Chicago.
The FBI had had few or no Turkish language translators, the audio tape recordings of wiretapped conversations needed to be listened to and transcribe into English. On September 20, 2001, Sibel D. Edmonds was hired as a contractor to work as an interpreter in the translations unit of the FBI in Washington, DC. She is fluent in Azerbaijani, Turkish, Persian and English. She lived in Iran and then Turkey before coming to the United States as a student in 1988. Her father was an Iranian Azerbaijani father and her mother was Turkish. Edmonds earned a bachelor's degree in criminal justice and psychology from George Washington University and has a master degree in public policy and international commerce from George Mason University.
She was briefed about why these operations had been initiated and who the wiretap targets were. She started working on translating conversations that the FBI hard recorded back in 1997. The conversation had to do with a Central Asia operation that involved Al Qaeda. She said she did not hear the word “al-Qaeda,” but instead the conversations included the words “mujahideen and “bin Ladens” and always in the plural.
She recalled that were conversations regarding “several bin Ladens who were going on private jets to Azerbaijan and Tajikistan. The Turkish ambassador in Azerbaijan worked with them.” There were bin Ladens being helped by Pakistanis or Saudis and a guy named “Marc Grossman” was leading it. …”Bringing people from East Turkestan into Kyrgyzstan, from Kyrgyzstan to Azerbaijan, from Azerbaijan some of them were being channeled to Chechnya, some of them were being channeled to Bosnia. From Turkey, they were putting all these bin Ladens on NATO planes. People and weapons went one way, drugs came back. A lot of the drugs were going to Belgium with NATO planes. After that, they went to the UK, and a lot came to the U.S. via military planes to distribution centers in Chicago and Paterson, New Jersey. Turkish diplomats who would never be searched were coming with suitcases of heroin.”
Let me emphasize that Sibel Edmonds did not have any experience working in US counter terrorism and she is hear this stuff just after the World Trade Center attack and AWOL Bush et al are lying like hell about Saddam Hussan being friendly with Al Qaeda and the Al Qaeda did 9/11. Notwithstanding there is plenty of reliable intelligence point the finger at Al Qaeda trying to carry out terrorist attacks inside the US. So when Sibel Edmonds hears these conversations she is naturally hyper vigilant and realizes that she is doing some very important work to insure the safety of Americans from future terrorists attacks.
I need to also explain some of what is going on in Turkey that is related to the conversation Edmonds was translating. The fight against the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) reached its apotheosis in the early 1990s. The PKK wanted to proclaim independent state by 1994 made up of a 30 mile by 80 mile part of Turkey that is on the border of Iraq and Syria. The PKK essentially controlled the towns of Şırnak and Cizre. The PKK was using the sales of heroin to by weapons for this guerrilla war against Turkey and Turkey largest export commodity was heroin to Europe (worth $50 billion annually) and the Turkish military was in charge of this trafficking (and most likely still is doing so today). And of course the US cannot allow a communist group to take over even a small section of Turkey, a NATO member.
Edmonds said: “I heard at least three transactions like this over a period of 2½ years. There are almost certainly more.” In one conversation Edmonds heard the official arranging to pick up a $15,000 cash bribe. The package was to be dropped off at an agreed location by someone in the Turkish diplomatic community who was working for the network. (The American-)Turkish Council in Washington was used to drop off the cash, which was picked up by the official.”
The FBI wiretaps learned that a Turkish diplomat was selling copies of classified US information to the highest bidder.
Edmonds said: “Certain greedy Turkish operators would make copies of the material and look around for buyers. They had agents who would find potential buyers.” In summer 2000 one of the spies met two Saudi Arabian businessmen in Detroit to sell nuclear information that had been stolen from an air force base in Alabama. She overheard the agent saying: “We have a package and we’re going to sell it for $250,000.”
Marc Isaiah Grossman, as US and Israeli citizen, became a person of interest early on in the FBI investigative file while he was the US ambassador to Turkey (1994-1997), when he became personally involved with operatives both from the Turkish government and from suspected criminal groups. He also had suspicious contact with a number of official and non-official Israelis. Grossman was removed from Turkey because of his association with a number of high-level criminals as well as senior army and intelligence officers. Grossman at this point he returned to the US and became Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs (Mar. 2001 to Feb. 2005), the third-highest position in the State Department.
The FBI is aware of his activities and is listening to his phone calls. When someone who is Turkish calls Grossman, the FBI monitors that individual’s phone calls, and when the Turk calls a friend who is a Pakistani or an Egyptian or a Saudi, they monitor all those contacts, widening the net. The FBI suspected he was using his State Department job position to do favors for Turkish interests—for the Turkish government, for possible criminals, and sometimes for both. And Grossman received $14,000 as a result.
As US Ambassador to Turkey from 1994 to 1997, Grossman strongly supported massive arms deals between the US and Turkey and was closely associated with the American Turkish Council (ATC). Members of the Board of Director of ATC are representative from seven of the largest US weapons manufacturing companies.
Edmonds stated the Grossman was the conduit to a group of congressmen who become, in a sense, the targets to be recruited as “agents of influence.” She said, “Grossman assisted his Turkish and Israeli contacts directly, and he also facilitated access to members of Congress who might be inclined to help for reasons of their own or could be bribed into cooperation. The top person obtaining classified information was Congressman Tom Lantos. A Lantos associate, Alan Makovsky worked very closely with Dr. Sabri Sayari in Georgetown University, who is widely believed to be a Turkish spy. Lantos would give Makovsky highly classified policy-related documents obtained during defense briefings for passage to Israel because Makovsky was also working for the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC).” Makovsky is now working for the Washington Institute for Near Eastern Policy, a pro-Israeli think tank.
“Lantos was at the time probably the most outspoken supporter of Israel in Congress. AIPAC would take out the information from Lantos that was relevant to Israel, and they would give the rest of it to their Turkish associates. The Turks would go through the leftovers, take what they wanted, and then try to sell the rest. If there were something relevant to Pakistan, they would contact the (Pakistani foreign intelligence service) ISI officer at the embassy and say, ‘We’ve got this and this, let’s sit down and talk.’ And then they would sell it to the Pakistanis.”
Edmonds stated, “This espionage network had a list of individuals in the Pentagon (and the RAND Corporation) broken down by access to certain types of information. Some of them would be policy related, some of them would be weapons-technology related, (and) some of them would be nuclear-related. Richard Perle and Douglas Feith would provide the names of those Americans, officials in the Pentagon, to Grossman, together with highly sensitive personal information. (For example), this person is a closet gay; this person has a chronic gambling issue; this person is an alcoholic. The files on the American targets would contain things like the size of their mortgages or whether they were going through divorces. One Air Force major I remember was going through a really nasty divorce and a child custody fight. They detailed all different kinds of vulnerabilities… RAND ended up becoming one of the prime targets for these foreign agents.”
“The RAND sources would be paid peanuts compared to what the information was worth when it was sold if it was not immediately useful for Turkey or Israel. They also had sources who were working in some mid-western Air Force bases. The sources would provide the information on CD’s and DVD’s. In one case, for example, a Turkish military attaché got the disc and discovered that it was something really important, so he offered it to the Pakistani ISI person at the embassy, but the price was too high. Then a Turkish contact in Chicago said he knew two Saudi businessmen in Detroit who would be very interested in this information, and they would pay the price. So the Turkish military attaché flew to Detroit with his assistant to make the sale.”
Grossman was receiving money for services. Edmonds said, “Sometimes he would give money to the people who were working with him, identified in phone calls on a first-name basis, whether it’s a John or a Joe. He also took care of some other people, including his contact at the New York Times. Grossman would brag, “We just fax to our people at the New York Times. They print it under their names.” Grossman contacted "a very high level person in the Turkish diplomatic community" and told that person not to hire Brewster Jennings because they were a CIA operation. Brewster Jennings was the CIA front company. It was where CIA officer Valerie Plame was working to infiltrate a nuclear weapons smuggling ring. In January 2005, Grossman also played a role in disclosing that she was an undercover as a CIA officer by telling Vice President Cheney’s aid, Scooter Libby. Edmonds alleges she heard the targets tell Grossman: "We need to get them out of the US because we can't afford for them to spill the beans." Grossman facilitated their release from jail and these suspects immediately left the US without further investigation or interrogation.
We sure as hell need to know who these suspects were!
Quote: “The monitoring of the Turks picked up contacts with Feith, Wolfowitz, and Perle in the summer of 2001, four months before 9/11. They were discussing with the Turkish ambassador in Washington an arrangement whereby the US would invade Iraq and divide the country. The UK would take the south, the rest would go to the US. They were negotiating what Turkey required in exchange for allowing an attack from Turkish soil. The Turks were very supportive, but wanted a three-part division of Iraq to include their own occupation of the Kurdish region. The three Defense Department officials said that would be more than they could agree to, but they continued daily communications to the ambassador and his defense attaché in an attempt to convince them to help.
Meanwhile Scowcroft, who was also the chairman of the American Turkish Council, Baker, Richard Armitage, and Grossman began negotiating separately for a possible Turkish protectorate. Nothing was decided, and then 9/11 took place.
Scowcroft was all for invading Iraq in 2001 and even wrote a paper for the Pentagon explaining why the Turkish northern front would be essential. I know Scowcroft came off as a hero to some for saying he was against the war, but he was very much for it until his client’s conditions were not met by the Bush administration.
The Turkish agents had a network of Turkish professors in various universities with access to government information. Their top source was a Turkish-born professor of nuclear physics at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. He was useful because MIT would place a bunch of Ph.D. or graduate-level students in various nuclear facilities like Sandia or Los Alamos, and some of them were able to work for the Air Force. (Grossman) He would provide the list of Ph.D. students who should get these positions. In some cases, the Turkish military attaché would ask that certain students be placed in important positions. And they were not necessarily all Turkish, but the ones they selected had struck deals with the Turkish agents to provide information in return for money. If for some reason they had difficulty getting a security clearance, Grossman would ensure that the State Department would arrange to clear them.
In exchange for the information that these students would provide, they would be paid $4,000 or $5,000. And the information that was sold to the two Saudis in Detroit went for something like $350,000 or $400,000.
In early 1997, because of the information that the FBI was getting on the Turkish diplomatic community, the Justice Department had already started to investigate several Republican congressmen. The number-one congressman involved with the Turkish community, both in terms of providing information and doing favors, was (Republican) Bob Livingston (1977 to 1998). Number-two after him was (Republican) Dan Burton (1983 – 2002), and then he became number-one until (US Representative Dennis) Hastert became the speaker of the House. He represented a suburb of Chicago from 1987 to 2007. Democratic Representative Jane Harman (1993 to 1998 and (2001 to Feb. 2011) was also noted in the FBI investigation. Years later:
In October, 2006, Time reported that the DOJ and FBI were investigating whether Harman and AIPAC "violated the law in a scheme to get Harman reappointed as the top Democrat on the House intelligence committee" and "the probe also involves whether, in exchange for the help from AIPAC, Harman agreed to help try to persuade the Administration to go lighter on the AIPAC officials caught up in the ongoing investigation." Harman was captured on an NSA wiretap conspiring with an Israeli agent to apply pressure on DOJ officials to scale back on an AIPAC prosecution. But the real crux is that then-Attorney General Alberto Gonazles intervened to kill the criminal investigation into Harman -- even though DOJ lawyers had concluded that she committed crimes. Harman resigned before her term was up in Feb. 2011)
Bill Clinton’s attorney general, Janet Reno, was briefed on the investigations, and since they were Republicans, she authorized that they be continued.
Well, as the FBI developed more information, (Democratic Representative) Tom Lantos (1981 to 2011) was added to this list, and then they got a lot on Douglas Feith and Richard Perle and Marc Grossman. At this point, the Justice Department said they wanted the FBI to only focus on Congress, leaving the executive branch people out of it. But the FBI agents involved wanted to continue pursuing Perle and Feith because the Israeli Embassy was also connected. …In 1999, they wiretapped the congressmen directly. (At some point the FBI was )“refused permission to monitor the congressmen and Grossman as primary targets. But the inquiry was kept alive in Chicago because the FBI office there was pursuing its own investigation. The epicenter of a lot of the foreign espionage activity was Chicago.
Former CIA officer Philip Giraldi stated that most of the CIA officers would say Richard Pearl is an agent of influence for Israel. In 1970s the FBI had previously wiretapped Pearl. In 1983 Feith lost his position within the NSC for disclosing secret information to Israel. In 2005, Douglas Feith was accused of passing secret US documents on Iran’s nuclear programs to the Israeli embassy.
In 2000, another representative was added to the list, Jan Schakowsky, the Democratic congresswoman from Illinois. Turkish agents started gathering information on her, and they found out that she was bisexual. So a Turkish (female spy) agent struck up a relationship with her, and they were intimate (had sexual relations) in Schakowsky’s townhouse, which had been set up with recording devices and hidden cameras. They needed Schakowsky and her husband Robert Creamer to perform certain illegal operational facilitations for them in Illinois. They already had Hastert, the mayor, and several other Illinois state senators involved. I don’t know if Congresswoman Schakowsky ever was actually blackmailed or did anything (illegal) for the Turkish woman. (unquote)
The stolen information was being sold, and the money that was being generated was used to corrupt certain congressmen to influence policy and provide still more information—in many cases information related to nuclear technology…”As well as weapons technology, conventional weapons technology, and Pentagon policy-related information,” Edmonds said.
Edmonds received much of her information while listening to FBI wiretap recordings of the American Turkish Council. At the time American Turkish Council was led by retired Lt. General Brent Scowcroft, the former national security adviser to the first President Bush. The foundes of the American Turkish Council include neoconservatives involved in the Israel-Turkey relationship, including Richard Perle and Douglas Feith, as well as Henry Kissinger, Brent Snowcroft and former congressman Stephen Solarz.
Sibel Edmonds invited her co-worker, translator Melek Can Dickerson and her husband Major Douglas Dickerson to stop by for visit. On December 2, 2001, they visited with Sibel and her husband William. According to Sibel, Major Dickerson brings up the name of a wealthy Turkish man living in nearby McLean, Virginia, who is involved with the ATC and has access to US military information. Sibel Edmonds is surprised because she recognizes his name from an investigation she is working on and knows that he is the target of a FBI counter espionage investigation. And the very same people the Dickersons are describing as “high-level friends.”
Melek Can Dickerson formerly worked for the ATC as an intern and was at the time a personal friend with a Turkish intelligence officer stationed in Washington who was the target of the FBI Wiretaps and investigation.
The Dickersons intimate that they are so close to this man that they shop for him and his wife. [SPERRY, 2005, PP. 163] They promised her she would receive enough to “live a very comfortable life wherever we wanted. We would never have to work again.” [ANTI-WAR .COM, 7/1/2004]
On Feb. 12, 2002: Edmonds submitted a memo alleging that co-translator Melek Can Dickerson shielded Turkish officials from an FBI investigation by failing to translate important wiretapped conversations. Edmonds learned this after re-translating the documents Melek Can had already translated. Edmonds discovered Melek Can’s left out or missed specific information about certain specific activity related to 9/11 and Edmonds accused her of forging signatures on top-secret documents related to 9/11 detainees. (I do not know what this forging is all about, but I assume it had to do with internal recording keeping within the translation section.) Also Melek had stamped hundreds, if not thousands, of documents related to these targets as "not pertinent." Dickerson attempted to prevent others from translating these documents important to the FBI's investigations and our fight against terrorism.
Go to this URL/link and watch the expert explanation about why the World Trade Center buildings collapsed due to explosions.
https://www.ae911truth.org/continuing-ed/ae911-aag-l#p3
WHEREAS some 2,983 architects and engineers of AE911truth.org, some 320 pilots of Pilots for 9/11 Truth, some 600 PhD scientist of Scholars for 9/11 for Truth and Justice, and some 58 elected public officials of Political Leaders for 9/11 Truth are saying the scientific irrefutably evidence proves that the collapse of the Twin Towers and World Trade Center buildings seven were destroyed in a controlled demolition by explosives,
And WHEREAS the National Institute of Standards and Technology’s (NIST) committed criminal negligence in doing their investigation of collapse of these buildings and made NO substantial additions or changes to the federal law about safety standards for steel high rise buildings,
And WHEREAS David Ray Griffin, PhD lists over 100 lies included in the official 9/11 Commission report in his book, The 9/11Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions,
And WHEREAS 911 Commissioners Tom Kean and Lee Hamilton said that the FAA and NORAD did not tell the truth to the Commission and that the Commission did not investigate this false testimony, and 9/11Commission former US Senators Bob Kerrey and Max Cleland called the Commission’s investigation a cover up,
And WHEREAS the group Lawyers’ Committee for 9/11 Inquiry has petitions Attorney General of the United States to convene a Special Grand Jury and to permit limited discovery—the taking of depositions by certain federal officials who have withheld documents from Freedom of Information Act release.
THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED we call for a new Congressional investigation of event before, during, and after the mass murder on 9/11.
Fitting in with the social occupations and not speaking out is part of the coward choice. Only few are forgiven for this. One.
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Tuesday, May 22, 2018 11:11 pm
VIDEO: 911TAP Petition Collecting by Sander Hicks and Ross Muir
How do you like to approach people out on the street about 9/11? Do you find it easy or hard? What do you say to start the conversation off -- "Hey, can I interest you in a discussion about the free fall collapse of Building 7 on 9/11?" Some people find it easy to do this, but probably not very many. What are you doing today to discuss 9/11 with strangers on the street? If you're doing little or nothing today, would it help if you had an easier approach?
Well, here you go. Hold up your clipboard with petitions attached. Don't wear any clothing to suggest you're a 9/11 truther. As people approach, get them to stop with a, "Hey, you got a minute?" Some will stop, "Sure, what you got?" At this point, they don't know what your topic is, but they are ready for a rational discussion about a political topic. This is about as good as you can hope for.
Now, there are many things you could say next, entirely to your liking. But it could be something as simple as, "We have a petition drive for a new 9/11 investigation. Would you like to sign our petition?" Even if you simply uttered this phrase and stopped there, you will quickly see a parting of humanity into the quick "Absolutely I'll sign!", "No, I'm good.", or somewhere in between, usually accompanied by stunned silence.
Here, even if you just collected petitions from those who immediately want to sign, and handed out brochures to all who are interested, you will have done a great deal. Many of the people who sign will choose to receive 911TAP newsletters and action alerts, and some will volunteer to help out. This is how you can find people to work with you and grow your team, and GROW THE TRUTH MOVEMENT. Everyone taking home a brochure will receive a truth injection that way as well. Even the people who say "no" will have received the equivalent of a "Re-investigate 9/11" sign stuck in their face and the message that we are not going away.
The following linked video features two of the best 911TAP petition collectors working the streets today: Sander Hicks and Ross Muir in New York City. They describe how they do it and give tips that everyone can try out. If you decide that you would like to give this a try yourself, 911TAP is ready to help and can set you up with the materials to get you started. Just enter a comment here or message me: David Fura
Let's do this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEWHnYJTg0A&index=64&list=WL
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And you can sign the 911TAP petition on-lne: www.911tap.org/petition
You need PR to promote the truth to counter the PR that's spun the lies.
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Tuesday, May 22, 2018 12:53 am
9/11 Truth movement has never had access to any legal venues for pursuing 9/11. This case, involving the Saudi money trail, has the hope of providing legal discovery. By pulling on loose threads, it is expected that the whole "official story" will unravel in a judicial environment.
The "28 pages" provide the evidence that the FBI investigation was fraudulent by not following the Saudi money trail. In a judicial environment, this is a big deal.
https://www.911tap.org/557-news-releases/734-9-11-case-against-saudis-moves-forward
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Did the Saudis detonate the WTC or fly a missle into the Pentagon? Jackasses
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Saudi prince just met with Brian Grazer Bob Igor of Disney and Rupert Murdoch
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This is where I need to educate myself more. Thx Gene
Are you kidding me!? Have you ever heard about LOGIC!?
Because you always frame the "real" criminals and then plant their Saudi passports and claim they were found in a pristine condition at ground Zero even after the airplanes got completely vaporised !! Then you claim the whole demolition was also by the ones who hijacked the planes and miraculously did all that !@#🤯
Whoever is involved in this from this organization was obviously bought by the criminals who committed the inside job like they bought most of government officials such as FEMA.. Civil organizations are no difference unfortunately.
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When will we hold Isreal and our own Government liable for their parts in this mass murder?
Was Hoover capable of ordering the assassination of MLK –YES!
And this and the JFK assassination were covered up since 1963 and 1968, so how about 9/11?
In 1946, FBI agents in New York were investigating Bugsy Siegel and Frank Costello. They were getting together to come up with the financing for the Flamingo casino. But the New York FBI agents soon received an order from Truman's Attorney General, Tom Clark, to cease the investigation on the grounds it "lacked federal jurisdiction." It was later learned that Nevada’s US Senator Pat McCarran had interceded on behalf of his newly emerging Las Vegas mafia. Senator McCaran charged that the FBI investigation had been designed to "damage the economy" of Nevada.
According to Anthony Summers, the author of The Secret Life of J. Edgar Hoover (1993): oilmen had started cultivating him in the late forties-inviting him to Texas as a houseguest, taking him on hunting expeditions.
Hoover and his boyfriend, Clyde Tolson were regular visitors to Murchison's Del Charro Hotel in La Jolla, California. Allan Witwer, the manager of the hotel at the time, later recalled: Witwer estimates that over the next 18 summers Murchison's hospitality in $100-a-day suites and including meals was worth nearly $300,000. ($2,520,000 in 2018 dollars).
He was friends with Walter Winchell, who was extremely close to many gangsters, including Frank Costello, and he regularly spent time at clubs frequented by gangsters. Hoover’s daily lunch tab at an expensive Washington restaurant was picked up by a friend who owned a large laundry service. Furthermore, he claimed that his annual trips to California were official FBI “inspection trips,” so they were paid for by taxpayers. Hoover had also invested in oil companies and railroads owned by Murchison and Richardson. The FBI was responsible for renovations and new furniture for his house.
The head of Federal Narcotics Bureau (FNB), Harry Anslinger stated that the CIA and Hoover subverted a grand jury that had been convened in Miami to probe the financial affairs of dozens of top mobsters. (The Strength of the Wolf, pgs. 260- 261)
In 1955 a Senate committee discovered that 20 per cent of the Murchison Oil Lease Company was owned by Vito Genovese and his family. The committee also discovered Murchison had close financial ties with Carlos Marcello.
In 1958 Murchison purchased the publishers, Henry Holt and Company. One of the first book's he published was by his old friend, J. Edgar Hoover. The book, Masters of Deceit: The Story of Communism in America (1958) was an account of the Communist menace and sold over 250,000 copies in hardcover and over 2,000,000 in paperback. It was on the best-seller lists for thirty-one weeks.
Hoover had invested millions of dollars in Murchison Oil Company.
As might be expected, that kind of money wielded enormous political power, and not just in Texas; then congressman Lyndon Johnson was bought and sold by Texas Big Oil, a feat that was apparently not so hard to accomplish. Likewise, in the days before campaign finance reform, Dwight Eisenhower owed a great deal to Big Oil, in particular from investing in wells drilled by his new best friend Sid Richardson. As author Burrough relates it, through an old family friend: “There's an old game in oil, you know, where your friends, they only invest in your good wells, not the bad wells? You understand? It was that way with Eisenhower. You never could prove it. But he did it. I know he did. Sid told me.”
(Source: The Rise and Fall of the Greatest Texas Oil Fortunes by Bryan Burrough
http://www.weeklystandard.com/liquid-assets/article/272299
http://historyonfilm.com/j-edgar-hoover/
Jeremy M. Jacobs, Sr. is the son of Jewish immigrants from Poland. The Jacobs crime family was originally from Buffalo, NY and they got rich bootlegging during Prohibition as partners with the Canadian Bronfmans crime family. In May 1972, the Jacobs’ Sportservice was convicted of a federal conspiracy charge for attempting to hide its ownership of share in the Frontier hotel and casino in Las Vegas.
His three sons have taken over running their crime family called Sportservice which is a New York based company (now called Delaware North). It is the largest nonpublic, family-owned corporations in the world, a conglomerate with control or partial control over 450 separate companies. Its stated annual profit is $350 million, from holdings in North American and British sports complexes, race tracks, and food consortia.
On June 3, 1976, Don Bolles an investigative reporter for the Republic was murdered due to a bomb planted under his car. He had been investigating the likely illegal relationships between Arizona racing regulators and the tracks owned by the Jacobs family.
In 1972 the Democratic Party members of the House Select Panel on Crime decided to terminate their hearings on Sportservice . US Senator Robert Dole, (R-KS) revealed that the decision had followed a private meeting between Jeremy Jacobs and Democratic National Committee Chairman Larry O'Brien. O'Brien subsequently left his Democratic Party post and assumed a lucrative job as president of the National Basketball Association—an organization with heavy representation by the Jacobs family. Senator Dole publicly protested the decision by the House Select Panel.
Five-term Arizona Congressman Sam Steiger denounced the Democrats exposing Sportservice’s ties to organized crime. Max and Jeremy Jacobs admitted in congressional testimony, that their company hired New York public relations man Hal Antin to defeat Steiger in his 1976 re-election bid. A Phoenix underworld figure, George H. Johnson, was paid to wiretap and manufacture scandals against Steiger, and he lost his re-election for a sixth term. (Source: May 24, 1972 issue of Sports Illustrated "Jacobs — Godfather of Sports) https://exploringrealhistory.blogspot.com/2017/11/part-3-final-judgmentthe-missing-link.html
The truth about the US military's and J. Edgar Hoover's involvement in the assassination of Martin L. King.
If you go to the below link you can listen to author William Pepper summarized his new book and how he uncovered the truth.
https://www.corbettreport.com/william-pepper-reveals-the-plot-to-kill-king/
More detailed research on how they set up James Earl Ray as a patsy.
http://rense.com/general19/part.htm
Kennedys And King - William F. Pepper, The Plot to Kill King: The Truth Behind the Assassination of Martin Luther King Jr.
The "28 pages" we're a well planned distraction from the real zionist 911 perps . We know they plan years , decades in advance .
The "ILLUMNATI" - aka - "New World Order", is solely responsible for 9/11 & these endless Wars, in both the Middle East & Africa.....! Put the blame to the rightful & Evil People & "Not" blame Countries or it's people....! Amen to the Truth....!
Israeli MOSSAD did this! I'm sure the Saudis were fully aware of the whole operation, as they are "Donmeh" Crypto Jews, and the US government was all in on it too.
Israel helped....
Guy Canale your post made me want to go and search myself! This is the first thing that came up when I searched. And by the way I typed it really fast to see what it would do
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/lawyers-and-911-victim-family-members-file-doj-petition-demanding-911-grand-jury-investigation-of-new-evidence-300625964.html
9/11 missiles or planes?
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=228777307858733&id=100021793971126
Were the Saudi's even involved at all?
911research.wtc7.net
Wtc7.net
Cheney Saudis isreal England and elements of Europe bloody hands
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Thursday, May 03, 2018 8:54 pm
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Monday, April 16, 2018 4:58 pm
April 14th tripartite attack on Syria is another stepchild of 9/11: Willful misinformation https://t.co/aD02uqafc4… https://t.co/cQX9sYyLDC
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Monday, April 16, 2018 4:56 pm
This is only possible because of the failure to hold the U.S. government and it's allies to account for 9/11. https://t.co/aD02uqrQAE
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Saturday, April 14, 2018 5:18 pm
You might have seen a Facebook ‘like’ button on websites outside of Facebook. That button allows Facebook to track… https://t.co/pK9meIhcWc
9/11 Truth Action Project
Saturday, April 14, 2018 3:39 am
ANNOUNCEMENT: February Results for 911TAP Petition Project
The 911TAP Petition Project is a vehicle to help lawfully and peacefully replace the U.S. Congress with a Truth-friendly Congress, in order to fund an independent 9/11 investigation worth paying for. The short term objective is to unify the 9/11 Truth movement into collective action and get everyone working harder, and together, on concrete teaching & recruiting activities.
The intermediate goal is to achieve a petition count displayed on the 911TAP website that will boost the morale of the 9/11 Truth movement and give us greater confidence, and, again, motivate us to work even harder.
As the petition count gets very high it will improve our credibility in the eyes of the general public and demonstrate to the world, and ourselves, that the 9/11 Truth movement has become a political force to be reckoned with.
On February 28, 2018 there were 2,838 signers of the 911TAP petition. The February position breakdown is unchanged from the previous monthly rankings, except for a big move by Arizona to take over the number 4 position. Oregon increased its lead and remains in the top spot, while New York keeps its position at number 2. The following list has the full top-10.
Oregon 1081
New York 330
California 225
Arizona 127
Washington 121
Florida 76
Massachusetts 54
Texas 45
Colorado 43
Pennsylvania 41
We need your help! Join us by signing the 911TAP petition. Volunteer for "Local Action Teams" if you want to work with paper petitions in your area. You will get plenty of help to get started.
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So in your opinion, who do you believe orchestrated the attacks of 9/11?
2,965 architects and engineers, http://www.ae911truth.org some 600 PhD scientists and some 350 skilled commercial airplane pilots believe the World Trade Center buildings collapsed due to explosion, the official story is full of BS, and the corporate media is grossly negligence in not reporting the truth, we want a new public Congressional investigation of 9/11.
Here is a summary of the evidence.
16 miracles related to 9/11
1. The Twin Towers and WTC 7 were the only steel-framed high-rise buildings ever to come down without explosives or incendiaries.
2. The Twin Towers, each of which had 287 steel columns, were brought down solely by a combination of airplane strikes and jet-fuel fires.
3. WTC 7 was not hit by a plane, ever before or after 9/11 has a steel high rise building (47 stories) ever collapsed due to fire and many burnt total from ground up to the top for way longer than five hours (think all day!)
4. WTC 7 collapsed in absolute free fall – for over two seconds.
5. The collapses imitated the kinds of implosions that can be induced only by demolition companies.
6. In the case of WTC 7, the structure came down symmetrically (straight down, with an almost perfectly horizontal roofline), which meant that all 82 of the steel support columns had to fall simultaneously, although the building’s fires had a very asymmetrical pattern.
7. The South Tower’s upper 30-floor block changed its angular momentum in midair after tipping some 22 degree. Yet the laws of physics says it should have toppled completely off the side of the Tower and landed on the ground in one big chuck.
8. This 30 floor block then disintegrated from the bottom like a cube of button on a hot frying pan.
9. With regard to the North Tower, some of its steel columns were ejected out horizontally for at least 500 feet.
10. The oxygen starved fires in the pile of debris from the WTC buildings could not be extinguished for many months.
Almost 12 weeks after September 11th, there was at least one fire still burning in the rubble – it is the longest-burning structural fire in history. After five days of cooling and despite being sprayed with water, they were still above the melting point of aluminum. A thermal map of Ground Zero created from infrared data collected by a NASA plane that overflew the site on September 16th. The map, created by the U.S. Geological Survey, shows hot spots on the surface of the rubble that were above 1,292 degrees F. FIVE DAYS AFTER THE COLLAPSE! Yet the fire fighters poured water on the surface of the wreckage for five days prior to this survey. Impossible for a normal hydrocarbon fire. Any fire underneath the surface of the wreckages was oxygen starved given all the fine concrete dust within the wreckage and water. And debris stated on fire when exposed by air during the cleaning up of the wreckage.
11. Although the WTC fires, based on ordinary building fires, could not have produced temperatures above 1,800℉, the fires inexplicably melted metals with much higher melting points, such as iron (2,800℉) and even molybdenum (4,753℉).
http://journalof911studies.com/articles/WTCHighTemp2.pdf
Yet the block smoke coming off the Twin Towers is evidence of a relatively cool fire of at most some 1,000 degree F. and with a nine mph cool breeze blowing thru the building.
12. A compound called nano thermite was found in at least four sample of the dust (power) were collected on September 11th 2001 around collapsed Twin Towers. This compound was in the form of red and gray microscopic chips. The chemical signature of many of the WTC dust spheres also "strikingly" matches that of the microscopic iron spheres found after testing a sample of nano-thermite chips. This chemical compound was invented by Lawerence Livermore Labs a year or so prior to 9/11.
Microscopic iron spheres are always produced when nano thermite ignited when heated to a start the chemical reaction, just like heat from friction ignites a match. And It burns at some $5,000 F. Air pressures cause the spherical shape, just like air pressure forms rain drops.
13. Some of the steel in the debris had been sulfidized, resulting in Swiss-cheese-appearing steel, even though ordinary building fires could not have resulted in the sulfidation.
Thermate is chemical compound when mixed contains sulfur becomes thermite and nano-thermite, contains sulfur.
14. These World Trade Center buildings also came down in free fall – the Twin Towers in virtual free fall. But “virtual” is meant too fast if a real collapse with crushing of upper floors onto lower floors had occurred, therefore, a logical explanation at least some explosions happened and not only crushing of steel on steel.
15. As a passenger on AA Flight 77, Barbara Olson called her husband, telling him about hijackers on her plane, even though this plane had no onboard phones and its altitude was too high for a cell phone call to get through.
16. Hijacker pilot Hani Hanjour could not possibly have flown the trajectory of AA 77 to strike Wedge 1 of the Pentagon, and yet he did.
Why some 350 skilled commercial airplane pilots want a new investigation
So here is a one aeronautical engineer and a pilot argument explains why none of the alleged 19 hijacker could have flown the four 9/11 jets. They had proved to be too incompetent to fly a little Cessna 172 single.
There are some who maintain that the mythical 9/11 hijackers, although had acquired the impressive skills that enabled them to fly airliners by training in flight simulators.
What follows is an attempt to bury this myth once and for all, because I’ve heard this ludicrous explanation bandied about, ad nauseam, on the Internet and the TV networks—invariably by people who know nothing substantive about flight simulators, flying, or even airplanes.
A common misconception non-pilots have about simulators is how “easy” it is to operate them. They are indeed relatively easy to operate if the objective is to make a few lazy turns and frolic about in the “open sky”. But if the intent in using the simulator is to execute any kind of a maneuver with even the least bit of precision, the task immediately becomes quite daunting.
And if the aim is to navigate to a specific geographic location hundreds of miles away while flying at over 500 MPH, 30,000 feet above the ground the challenges become virtually impossible for an untrained pilot. For one, even touching the steering wheel (the yoke) of the airplane slightly at some 500 mph will put the airplane way off course.
For a person not conversant with the practical complexities of pilotage, a modern flight simulator could present a terribly confusing and disorienting experience. These complex training devices are not even remotely similar to the video games one sees in amusement arcades, or even the software versions available for home computers.
In order to operate a modern flight simulator with any level of skill, one has to not only be a decent pilot to begin with, but also a skilled instrument-rated one to boot — and be thoroughly familiar with the actual aircraft type the simulator represents, since the cockpit layouts vary between aircraft.
Once you’ve rotated, climbed out, and reached cruising altitude in a simulator (or real airplane), and find yourself en route to some distant destination (using sophisticated electronic navigation techniques), the situation changes drastically: the pilot loses virtually all external visual reference cues, and is left entirely at the mercy of an array of complex flight and navigation instruments to provide situational cues (altitude, heading, speed, attitude, etc.) At some 30,000 feet above the ground is a lot different than flying at some 3,000 feet at 500 mph vs. following a highway flying a Cessna by looking out the airplane window at some 100 mph.
In the case of a Boeing 757 or 767, the pilot would be faced with an EFIS (Electronic Flight Instrumentation System) panel comprised of six large multi-mode LCDs interspersed with clusters of assorted “hard” instruments. These displays process the raw aircraft system and flight data into an integrated picture of the aircraft situation, position and progress, not only in horizontal and vertical dimensions, but also with regard to time and speed as well.
If one cannot translate this information quickly, precisely and accurately (and it takes an instrument-rated pilot to do so), one would have ZERO SITUATIONAL AWARENESS. I.e., the pilot wouldn’t have a clue where s/he was in relation to the earth. And know where the FAA radar coverage was so poor when he made his 360 degree making a turn-around to head back to New York City, could not be seen after he turned off the transponder.
Flight under such conditions is referred to as “IFR”, or Instrument Flight Rules.
Let me place this in the context of the 9/11 hijacker-pilots. These men were repeatedly deemed incompetent to solo a simple Cessna-172 — an elementary exercise that involves flying this little trainer once around the patch on a sunny day. A student’s first solo flight involves a simple circuit: take-off, followed by four gentle left turns ending with a landing back on the runway. This is as basic as flying can possibly get.
Not one of the hijackers was deemed fit to perform this most elementary exercise by himself. In fact, here’s what their flight instructors had to say about the aptitude of these budding aviators:
Mohammed Atta: “His attention span was zero.”
https://www.willthomas.net/911/911_Commission_Hearing.htm
Khalid Al-Mihdhar: “We didn’t kick him out, but he didn’t live up to our standards.”
https://100777.com/node/237
Marwan Al-Shehhi: “He was dropped because of his limited English and incompetence at the controls.”
https://www.the7thfire.com/Politics%20and%20History/9-11/9-11_hijackers_still_alive.htm
Salem Al-Hazmi: “We advised him to quit after two lessons.”
https://www.willthomas.net/Books_Videos/911_Investigations_Stand_Down.htm
Hani Hanjour: “His English was horrible, and his mechanical skills were even worse. It was like he had hardly even ever driven a car.
I’m still to this day amazed that he could have flown into the Pentagon. He could not fly at all.”
https://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hanjour.html
Now let’s take a look at American Airlines Flight 77 that allegedly flew into the Pentagon. Passenger/hijacker Hani Hanjour presumably rises from his seat midway through the flight, viciously fights his way into the cockpit with his cohorts, overpowers Captain Charles F. Burlingame and First Officer David Charlebois, and somehow manages to toss them out of the cockpit (for starters, very difficult to achieve in a cramped environment without inadvertently impacting (slightly touching) the yoke and thereby disengaging the autopilot).
One would correctly presume that this would present considerable difficulties to a little chap with a box cutter—Burlingame was a tough, burly, ex-Vietnam F4 fighter jock who had flown over 100 combat missions. Every pilot who knows him says that rather than politely hand over the controls, Burlingame would have instantly rolled the plane on its back so that Hanjour would have broken his neck when he hit the floor.
But let’s ignore this almost natural reaction expected of a fighter pilot and proceed with this charade. Imagine that Hanjour overpowers the flight deck crew, removes them from the cockpit and takes his position in the captain’s seat.
The weather reports say it was fairly clear, so let’s say Hanjour experienced a perfect Ceiling and Visibility Unlimited day. Below him is a murky brownish-grey-green landscape, virtually devoid of any significant surface detail, while the aircraft he was now piloting was moving along, almost imperceptibly and in eerie silence, at around 500 mph. He wouldn’t have had a clue as to where, precisely, he was. There’s nothing there to give him any real visual cues.
Mr. Hanjour would be forced to divert his attention to his instrument panel, where he’d be faced with a bewildering array of instruments—nothing like he had seen in a Cessna 172. He would then have to very quickly interpret his heading, ground track, altitude, and airspeed information on the displays before he could even figure out where in the world he was, much less where the Pentagon was located in relation to his position.
After all, before he can crash into a target, he has to first find the target.
But, for the sake of discussion let’s stretch things beyond all plausibility and say that Hanjour—whose flight instructor claimed “couldn’t fly at all”—somehow managed to figure out their exact position on the American landscape in relation to their intended target. Once he had determined exactly where he was, he would need to figure out where the Pentagon was located in relation to his rapidly-changing position. He would then need to plot a course to his target (one he cannot see with his eyes—remember, our ace is flying solely on instruments).
In order to perform this bit of electronic navigation, he would have to be very familiar with Instrument Flight Rules procedures. None of these alleged hijackers even knew what a navigational chart looked like, much less how to how to plug information into flight management computers (FMC) and engage LNAV (lateral navigation automated mode).
To get around this little problem, the official storyline suggests these men manually flew their aircraft to their respective targets. But let’s assume Hanjour disengaged the autopilot and auto-throttle and hand-flew the aircraft to its intended target on instruments alone until such time as he could get a visual fix.
According to FAA radar controllers, “Flight 77” then suddenly pops up over Washington DC and executes an incredibly precise diving turn at a rate of 360 degrees/minute while descending at 3,500 ft/min, (to hide from FAA radar) at the end of which “Hanjour” allegedly levels out at ground level. Oh, I almost forgot: He also had the presence of mind to turn off the transponder in the middle of this incredibly difficult maneuver.
The maneuver was in fact so precisely executed that the air traffic controllers at Dulles refused to believe the blip on their screen was a commercial airliner. Danielle O’Brian, one of the air traffic controllers at Dulles who reported seeing the aircraft at 9:25 said, “The speed, the maneuverability, the way that he turned, we all thought in the radar room, all of us experienced air traffic controllers, that that was a military plane.”
(https://www.lookingglassnews.org/viewstory.php?storyid=4084)
And then, all of a sudden we have magic. Voila! Hanjour finds the Pentagon sitting squarely in his sights right before him.
The very same challenges mentioned above would have faced the pilots who flew the two 767s into the Twin Towers, in that they, too, would have had to have first found their targets.
Again, these chaps, too, miraculously found themselves spot on course. And again, their “final approach” maneuvers at over 500 MPH are simply far too incredible to have been executed by pilots who could not solo basic training aircraft.
“Regarding your comments on flight simulators, several of my colleagues and I have tried to simulate the ‘hijacker’s’ final approach maneuvers into the towers on our company 767 simulator. We tried repeated tight, steeply banked 180 turns at 500 mph followed by a fast rollout and lineup with a tall building. More than two-thirds of those who attempted the maneuver failed to make a ‘hit’.
How these rookies who couldn’t fly a trainer pulled this off is beyond comprehension.”
Conclusion
The writers of the official storyline expect us to believe, that once the flight deck crews had been overpowered, and the hijackers “took control” of the various aircraft, their intended targets suddenly popped up in their windshields as they would have in some arcade game, and all that these fellows would have had to do was simply aim their airplanes at the buildings and fly into them.
Most people who have been exposed only to the official storyline have never been on the flight deck of an airliner at altitude and looked at the outside world; if they had, they’d realize the absurdity of this kind of reasoning.
https://www.veteranstodayarchives.com/2010/08/13/nila-sagadevan-911-the-impossibility-of-flying-heavy-aircraft-without-training/
A brand new Grand Jury Petition court document filed in the supreme court of New York on April 10, 2018 proving that 911 was done with thermite and incendiaries
https://lawyerscommitteefor9-11inquiry.org/lc-doj-grand-jury-petition/
9/11 Truth Action Project
Saturday, April 14, 2018 3:39 am
April 15 Spring Actions in various cities around the country:
https://www.911tap.org/557-news-releases/731-united-day-of-action-against-u-s-wars-at-home-and-abroad
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The collapse of the Plasco Building in Iran - The white smoking gun!
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=building+collapse+in+iran&&view=detail&mid=B74A248683BF6D928AF1B74A248683BF6D928AF1&&FORM=VDRVRV
You can see the orange flash of flame in three explosions in these videos. There is no fire at the lower floors where these flashes come out.
Also a controlled explosion tries to fold the sides of a building onto itself so the collapse occurs as close as possible into the footprint of the building and do less damage to surrounding structures or people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MgJTa7SDaY
In this video you can see the termite burning within the molten steel. When termite burns it produces white smoke called aluminum oxide. It is so hot the steel teeth on the excavator start to turn red hot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJeQghFOe9E&index=10&list=PLUshF3H0xxH3WcOFWzcSg_gmce0wrDolF
Here is a fire fighter explaining the explosion that were heard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEN8z7wQ8lQ&index=7&list=PLUshF3H0xxH3WcOFWzcSg_gmce0wrDolF
Notice all the water being poured onto the wreckage. Any hydrocarbon fire would not keep burning to such a degree to produce all the white smoke. And the wreckage burnt for three days they are saying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiXyHp8vIIk&t=32s
News story showing white smoke on day four after the collapse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1GWWwdkJ_A
In memory of the Plasco Building 30 fire fighters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y8zcY_tEq0
Why couldn't they recover the 4 black boxes (first time in HISTORY) but were somehow able to recover a paper passport of one of the hijackers?
Democratorship - Democratic Matrices /Technology of Post-Truth/
A brand new Grand Jury Petition court document filed in the supreme court of New York on April 10, 2018 proving that 911 was done with thermite and incendiaries
https://lawyerscommitteefor9-11inquiry.org/lc-doj-grand-jury-petition/
9/11 Truth Action Project
Monday, April 09, 2018 9:26 pm
Dr. David Ray Griffin and Elizabeth Woodworth, in their statement, remind all of us that the process of understanding the events of 9/11 is a multifaceted and multidisciplinary effort that requires the best evidence to be obtained, evaluated and then used to test hypotheses.
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Bullshit
First, it appears to be an admission that you cannot acknowledge that a plane hit the Pentagon, despite sufficient evidence. This appears to be a sacrifice in pursuing the truth to appease a larger audience. Second, this has all the hallmarks of an authoritative body set to politicize science by defining 'best evidence' (when it seems you cannot arrive at it with the Pentagon) and, third, it actually includes the word "consensus" in its title. Consensus science is not science at all, but more of a religion, as demonstrated by the IPCC.
You don't need it. It's not difficult to determine:
1. 9/11 was a false flag attack with an agenda behind it.
2. Who was involved with the planning, execution and cover-up of 9/11.
3. The agenda behind 9/11.
Will Sturtridge
Well documented crime of the century.
You will always have opponents to truth within your group.
They have been with you since day one and have had years to polish their methods of diminishing your message.
One of their tried and true ploys is to make you look foolish by adding absurd elements to your narrative. They hope to keep you in the "lunatic fringe" by association with tin-foil hat stories of mysterious like HAARP references, death rays, Illuminatti, etc.
Also, regrettably, you attract genuine flakes who actually believe nonsense science fiction imaginings.
"If it's consensus, it ain't science." Michael Crichton
there is overwhelming physical evidence that it was a conspiracy to change the worlds thinking by the elite. Sad thing is... there is nothing we can do about it.
2,965 architects and engineers, http://www.ae911truth.org some 600 PhD scientists and some 350 skilled commercial airplane pilots believe the World Trade Center buildings collapsed due to explosion, the official story is full of BS, and the corporate media is grossly negligence in not reporting the truth, we want a new public Congressional investigation of 9/11.
These people want a new Congressional investigation of 9/11
Former Senator Mike Gravel , Vice President Walter Mondale , Senator Charles Schumer
Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, Senator Max Cleland, Gov. Walter Peterson-NH
Former US Senator Mike Gravel - AK, Gen. Wesley Clark, Louis Freeh
Rep. Curt Weldon, Cynthia McKinney, Rep. Kucinich , Gov. Jessey Ventura, Sen. Rand Paul,
Sen. Ron Paul, Major General Albert Stubblebine
http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/
Here is a summary of the evidence.
16 miracles related to 9/11
1. The Twin Towers and WTC 7 were the only steel-framed high-rise buildings ever to come down without explosives or incendiaries.
2. The Twin Towers, each of which had 287 steel columns, were brought down solely by a combination of airplane strikes and jet-fuel fires.
3. WTC 7 was not hit by a plane, ever before or after 9/11 has a steel high rise building (47 stories) ever collapsed due to fire and many burnt total from ground up to the top for way longer than five hours (think all day!)
4. WTC 7 collapsed in absolute free fall – for over two seconds.
5. The collapses imitated the kinds of implosions that can be induced only by demolition companies.
6. In the case of WTC 7, the structure came down symmetrically (straight down, with an almost perfectly horizontal roofline), which meant that all 82 of the steel support columns had to fall simultaneously, although the building’s fires had a very asymmetrical pattern.
7. The South Tower’s upper 30-floor block changed its angular momentum in midair after tipping some 22 degree. Yet the laws of physics says it should have toppled completely off the side of the Tower and landed on the ground in one big chuck.
8. This 30 floor block then disintegrated from the bottom like a cube of button on a hot frying pan.
9. With regard to the North Tower, some of its steel columns were ejected out horizontally for at least 500 feet.
10. The oxygen starved fires in the pile of debris from the WTC buildings could not be extinguished for many months.
Almost 12 weeks after September 11th, there was at least one fire still burning in the rubble – it is the longest-burning structural fire in history. After five days of cooling and despite being sprayed with water, they were still above the melting point of aluminum. A thermal map of Ground Zero created from infrared data collected by a NASA plane that overflew the site on September 16th. The map, created by the U.S. Geological Survey, shows hot spots on the surface of the rubble that were above 1,292 degrees F. FIVE DAYS AFTER THE COLLAPSE! Yet the fire fighters poured water on the surface of the wreckage for five days prior to this survey. Impossible for a normal hydrocarbon fire. Any fire underneath the surface of the wreckages was oxygen starved given all the fine concrete dust within the wreckage and water. And debris stated on fire when exposed by air during the cleaning up of the wreckage.
11. Although the WTC fires, based on ordinary building fires, could not have produced temperatures above 1,800℉, the fires inexplicably melted metals with much higher melting points, such as iron (2,800℉) and even molybdenum (4,753℉).
http://journalof911studies.com/articles/WTCHighTemp2.pdf
Yet the block smoke coming off the Twin Towers is evidence of a relatively cool fire of at most some 1,000 degree F. and with a nine mph cool breeze blowing thru the building.
12. A compound called nano thermite was found in at least four sample of the dust (power) were collected on September 11th 2001 around collapsed Twin Towers. This compound was in the form of red and gray microscopic chips. The chemical signature of many of the WTC dust spheres also "strikingly" matches that of the microscopic iron spheres found after testing a sample of nano-thermite chips. This chemical compound was invented by Lawerence Livermore Labs a year or so prior to 9/11.
Microscopic iron spheres are always produced when nano thermite ignited when heated to a start the chemical reaction, just like heat from friction ignites a match. And It burns at some $5,000 F. Air pressures cause the spherical shape, just like air pressure forms rain drops.
13. Some of the steel in the debris had been sulfidized, resulting in Swiss-cheese-appearing steel, even though ordinary building fires could not have resulted in the sulfidation.
Thermate is chemical compound when mixed contains sulfur becomes thermite and nano-thermite, contains sulfur.
14. These World Trade Center buildings also came down in free fall – the Twin Towers in virtual free fall. But “virtual” is meant too fast if a real collapse with crushing of upper floors onto lower floors had occurred, therefore, a logical explanation at least some explosions happened and not only crushing of steel on steel.
15. As a passenger on AA Flight 77, Barbara Olson called her husband, telling him about hijackers on her plane, even though this plane had no onboard phones and its altitude was too high for a cell phone call to get through.
16. Hijacker pilot Hani Hanjour could not possibly have flown the trajectory of AA 77 to strike Wedge 1 of the Pentagon, and yet he did.
Why some 350 skilled commercial airplane pilots want a new investigation
So here is a one aeronautical engineer and a pilot argument explains why none of the alleged 19 hijacker could have flown the four 9/11 jets. They had proved to be too incompetent to fly a little Cessna 172 single.
There are some who maintain that the mythical 9/11 hijackers, although had acquired the impressive skills that enabled them to fly airliners by training in flight simulators.
What follows is an attempt to bury this myth once and for all, because I’ve heard this ludicrous explanation bandied about, ad nauseam, on the Internet and the TV networks—invariably by people who know nothing substantive about flight simulators, flying, or even airplanes.
A common misconception non-pilots have about simulators is how “easy” it is to operate them. They are indeed relatively easy to operate if the objective is to make a few lazy turns and frolic about in the “open sky”. But if the intent in using the simulator is to execute any kind of a maneuver with even the least bit of precision, the task immediately becomes quite daunting.
And if the aim is to navigate to a specific geographic location hundreds of miles away while flying at over 500 MPH, 30,000 feet above the ground the challenges become virtually impossible for an untrained pilot. For one, even touching the steering wheel (the yoke) of the airplane slightly at some 500 mph will put the airplane way off course.
For a person not conversant with the practical complexities of pilotage, a modern flight simulator could present a terribly confusing and disorienting experience. These complex training devices are not even remotely similar to the video games one sees in amusement arcades, or even the software versions available for home computers.
In order to operate a modern flight simulator with any level of skill, one has to not only be a decent pilot to begin with, but also a skilled instrument-rated one to boot — and be thoroughly familiar with the actual aircraft type the simulator represents, since the cockpit layouts vary between aircraft.
Once you’ve rotated, climbed out, and reached cruising altitude in a simulator (or real airplane), and find yourself en route to some distant destination (using sophisticated electronic navigation techniques), the situation changes drastically: the pilot loses virtually all external visual reference cues, and is left entirely at the mercy of an array of complex flight and navigation instruments to provide situational cues (altitude, heading, speed, attitude, etc.) At some 30,000 feet above the ground is a lot different than flying at some 3,000 feet at 500 mph vs. following a highway flying a Cessna by looking out the airplane window at some 100 mph.
In the case of a Boeing 757 or 767, the pilot would be faced with an EFIS (Electronic Flight Instrumentation System) panel comprised of six large multi-mode LCDs interspersed with clusters of assorted “hard” instruments. These displays process the raw aircraft system and flight data into an integrated picture of the aircraft situation, position and progress, not only in horizontal and vertical dimensions, but also with regard to time and speed as well.
If one cannot translate this information quickly, precisely and accurately (and it takes an instrument-rated pilot to do so), one would have ZERO SITUATIONAL AWARENESS. I.e., the pilot wouldn’t have a clue where s/he was in relation to the earth. And know where the FAA radar coverage was so poor when he made his 360 degree making a turn-around to head back to New York City, could not be seen after he turned off the transponder.
Flight under such conditions is referred to as “IFR”, or Instrument Flight Rules.
Let me place this in the context of the 9/11 hijacker-pilots. These men were repeatedly deemed incompetent to solo a simple Cessna-172 — an elementary exercise that involves flying this little trainer once around the patch on a sunny day. A student’s first solo flight involves a simple circuit: take-off, followed by four gentle left turns ending with a landing back on the runway. This is as basic as flying can possibly get.
Not one of the hijackers was deemed fit to perform this most elementary exercise by himself. In fact, here’s what their flight instructors had to say about the aptitude of these budding aviators:
Mohammed Atta: “His attention span was zero.”
https://www.willthomas.net/911/911_Commission_Hearing.htm
Khalid Al-Mihdhar: “We didn’t kick him out, but he didn’t live up to our standards.”
https://100777.com/node/237
Marwan Al-Shehhi: “He was dropped because of his limited English and incompetence at the controls.”
https://www.the7thfire.com/Politics%20and%20History/9-11/9-11_hijackers_still_alive.htm
Salem Al-Hazmi: “We advised him to quit after two lessons.”
https://www.willthomas.net/Books_Videos/911_Investigations_Stand_Down.htm
Hani Hanjour: “His English was horrible, and his mechanical skills were even worse. It was like he had hardly even ever driven a car.
I’m still to this day amazed that he could have flown into the Pentagon. He could not fly at all.”
https://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hanjour.html
Now let’s take a look at American Airlines Flight 77 that allegedly flew into the Pentagon. Passenger/hijacker Hani Hanjour presumably rises from his seat midway through the flight, viciously fights his way into the cockpit with his cohorts, overpowers Captain Charles F. Burlingame and First Officer David Charlebois, and somehow manages to toss them out of the cockpit (for starters, very difficult to achieve in a cramped environment without inadvertently impacting (slightly touching) the yoke and thereby disengaging the autopilot).
One would correctly presume that this would present considerable difficulties to a little chap with a box cutter—Burlingame was a tough, burly, ex-Vietnam F4 fighter jock who had flown over 100 combat missions. Every pilot who knows him says that rather than politely hand over the controls, Burlingame would have instantly rolled the plane on its back so that Hanjour would have broken his neck when he hit the floor.
But let’s ignore this almost natural reaction expected of a fighter pilot and proceed with this charade. Imagine that Hanjour overpowers the flight deck crew, removes them from the cockpit and takes his position in the captain’s seat.
The weather reports say it was fairly clear, so let’s say Hanjour experienced a perfect Ceiling and Visibility Unlimited day. Below him is a murky brownish-grey-green landscape, virtually devoid of any significant surface detail, while the aircraft he was now piloting was moving along, almost imperceptibly and in eerie silence, at around 500 mph. He wouldn’t have had a clue as to where, precisely, he was. There’s nothing there to give him any real visual cues.
Mr. Hanjour would be forced to divert his attention to his instrument panel, where he’d be faced with a bewildering array of instruments—nothing like he had seen in a Cessna 172. He would then have to very quickly interpret his heading, ground track, altitude, and airspeed information on the displays before he could even figure out where in the world he was, much less where the Pentagon was located in relation to his position.
After all, before he can crash into a target, he has to first find the target.
But, for the sake of discussion let’s stretch things beyond all plausibility and say that Hanjour—whose flight instructor claimed “couldn’t fly at all”—somehow managed to figure out their exact position on the American landscape in relation to their intended target. Once he had determined exactly where he was, he would need to figure out where the Pentagon was located in relation to his rapidly-changing position. He would then need to plot a course to his target (one he cannot see with his eyes—remember, our ace is flying solely on instruments).
In order to perform this bit of electronic navigation, he would have to be very familiar with Instrument Flight Rules procedures. None of these alleged hijackers even knew what a navigational chart looked like, much less how to how to plug information into flight management computers (FMC) and engage LNAV (lateral navigation automated mode).
To get around this little problem, the official storyline suggests these men manually flew their aircraft to their respective targets. But let’s assume Hanjour disengaged the autopilot and auto-throttle and hand-flew the aircraft to its intended target on instruments alone until such time as he could get a visual fix.
According to FAA radar controllers, “Flight 77” then suddenly pops up over Washington DC and executes an incredibly precise diving turn at a rate of 360 degrees/minute while descending at 3,500 ft/min, (to hide from FAA radar) at the end of which “Hanjour” allegedly levels out at ground level. Oh, I almost forgot: He also had the presence of mind to turn off the transponder in the middle of this incredibly difficult maneuver.
The maneuver was in fact so precisely executed that the air traffic controllers at Dulles refused to believe the blip on their screen was a commercial airliner. Danielle O’Brian, one of the air traffic controllers at Dulles who reported seeing the aircraft at 9:25 said, “The speed, the maneuverability, the way that he turned, we all thought in the radar room, all of us experienced air traffic controllers, that that was a military plane.”
(https://www.lookingglassnews.org/viewstory.php?storyid=4084)
And then, all of a sudden we have magic. Voila! Hanjour finds the Pentagon sitting squarely in his sights right before him.
The very same challenges mentioned above would have faced the pilots who flew the two 767s into the Twin Towers, in that they, too, would have had to have first found their targets.
Again, these chaps, too, miraculously found themselves spot on course. And again, their “final approach” maneuvers at over 500 MPH are simply far too incredible to have been executed by pilots who could not solo basic training aircraft.
“Regarding your comments on flight simulators, several of my colleagues and I have tried to simulate the ‘hijacker’s’ final approach maneuvers into the towers on our company 767 simulator. We tried repeated tight, steeply banked 180 turns at 500 mph followed by a fast rollout and lineup with a tall building. More than two-thirds of those who attempted the maneuver failed to make a ‘hit’.
How these rookies who couldn’t fly a trainer pulled this off is beyond comprehension.”
Conclusion
The writers of the official storyline expect us to believe, that once the flight deck crews had been overpowered, and the hijackers “took control” of the various aircraft, their intended targets suddenly popped up in their windshields as they would have in some arcade game, and all that these fellows would have had to do was simply aim their airplanes at the buildings and fly into them.
Most people who have been exposed only to the official storyline have never been on the flight deck of an airliner at altitude and looked at the outside world; if they had, they’d realize the absurdity of this kind of reasoning.
https://www.veteranstodayarchives.com/2010/08/13/nila-sagadevan-911-the-impossibility-of-flying-heavy-aircraft-without-training/
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/lawyers-and-911-victim-family-members-file-doj-petition-demanding-911-grand-jury-investigation-of-new-evidence-300625964.html
9/11 Truth Action Project
Monday, March 19, 2018 12:15 am
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That’s a cool image. Good work.
2,965 architects and engineers, http://www.ae911truth.org some 600 PhD scientists and some 350 skilled commercial airplane pilots believe the World Trade Center buildings collapsed due to explosion, the official story is full of BS, and the corporate media is grossly negligence in not reporting the truth, we want a new public Congressional investigation of 9/11.
These people want a new Congressional investigation of 9/11
Former Senator Mike Gravel , Vice President Walter Mondale , Senator Charles Schumer
Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, Senator Max Cleland, Gov. Walter Peterson-NH
Former US Senator Mike Gravel - AK, Gen. Wesley Clark, Louis Freeh
Rep. Curt Weldon, Cynthia McKinney, Rep. Kucinich , Gov. Jessey Ventura, Sen. Rand Paul,
Sen. Ron Paul, Major General Albert Stubblebine
http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/
Here is a summary of the evidence.
16 miracles related to 9/11
1. The Twin Towers and WTC 7 were the only steel-framed high-rise buildings ever to come down without explosives or incendiaries.
2. The Twin Towers, each of which had 287 steel columns, were brought down solely by a combination of airplane strikes and jet-fuel fires.
3. WTC 7 was not hit by a plane, ever before or after 9/11 has a steel high rise building (47 stories) ever collapsed due to fire and many burnt total from ground up to the top for way longer than five hours (think all day!)
4. WTC 7 collapsed in absolute free fall – for over two seconds.
5. The collapses imitated the kinds of implosions that can be induced only by demolition companies.
6. In the case of WTC 7, the structure came down symmetrically (straight down, with an almost perfectly horizontal roofline), which meant that all 82 of the steel support columns had to fall simultaneously, although the building’s fires had a very asymmetrical pattern.
7. The South Tower’s upper 30-floor block changed its angular momentum in midair after tipping some 22 degree. Yet the laws of physics says it should have toppled completely off the side of the Tower and landed on the ground in one big chuck.
8. This 30 floor block then disintegrated from the bottom like a cube of button on a hot frying pan.
9. With regard to the North Tower, some of its steel columns were ejected out horizontally for at least 500 feet.
10. The oxygen starved fires in the pile of debris from the WTC buildings could not be extinguished for many months.
Almost 12 weeks after September 11th, there was at least one fire still burning in the rubble – it is the longest-burning structural fire in history. After five days of cooling and despite being sprayed with water, they were still above the melting point of aluminum. A thermal map of Ground Zero created from infrared data collected by a NASA plane that overflew the site on September 16th. The map, created by the U.S. Geological Survey, shows hot spots on the surface of the rubble that were above 1,292 degrees F. FIVE DAYS AFTER THE COLLAPSE! Yet the fire fighters poured water on the surface of the wreckage for five days prior to this survey. Impossible for a normal hydrocarbon fire. Any fire underneath the surface of the wreckages was oxygen starved given all the fine concrete dust within the wreckage and water. And debris stated on fire when exposed by air during the cleaning up of the wreckage.
11. Although the WTC fires, based on ordinary building fires, could not have produced temperatures above 1,800℉, the fires inexplicably melted metals with much higher melting points, such as iron (2,800℉) and even molybdenum (4,753℉).
http://journalof911studies.com/articles/WTCHighTemp2.pdf
Yet the block smoke coming off the Twin Towers is evidence of a relatively cool fire of at most some 1,000 degree F. and with a nine mph cool breeze blowing thru the building.
12. A compound called nano thermite was found in at least four sample of the dust (power) were collected on September 11th 2001 around collapsed Twin Towers. This compound was in the form of red and gray microscopic chips. The chemical signature of many of the WTC dust spheres also "strikingly" matches that of the microscopic iron spheres found after testing a sample of nano-thermite chips. This chemical compound was invented by Lawerence Livermore Labs a year or so prior to 9/11.
Microscopic iron spheres are always produced when nano thermite ignited when heated to a start the chemical reaction, just like heat from friction ignites a match. And It burns at some $5,000 F. Air pressures cause the spherical shape, just like air pressure forms rain drops.
13. Some of the steel in the debris had been sulfidized, resulting in Swiss-cheese-appearing steel, even though ordinary building fires could not have resulted in the sulfidation.
Thermate is chemical compound when mixed contains sulfur becomes thermite and nano-thermite, contains sulfur.
14. These World Trade Center buildings also came down in free fall – the Twin Towers in virtual free fall. But “virtual” is meant too fast if a real collapse with crushing of upper floors onto lower floors had occurred, therefore, a logical explanation at least some explosions happened and not only crushing of steel on steel.
15. As a passenger on AA Flight 77, Barbara Olson called her husband, telling him about hijackers on her plane, even though this plane had no onboard phones and its altitude was too high for a cell phone call to get through.
16. Hijacker pilot Hani Hanjour could not possibly have flown the trajectory of AA 77 to strike Wedge 1 of the Pentagon, and yet he did.
Why some 350 skilled commercial airplane pilots want a new investigation
So here is a one aeronautical engineer and a pilot argument explains why none of the alleged 19 hijacker could have flown the four 9/11 jets. They had proved to be too incompetent to fly a little Cessna 172 single.
There are some who maintain that the mythical 9/11 hijackers, although had acquired the impressive skills that enabled them to fly airliners by training in flight simulators.
What follows is an attempt to bury this myth once and for all, because I’ve heard this ludicrous explanation bandied about, ad nauseam, on the Internet and the TV networks—invariably by people who know nothing substantive about flight simulators, flying, or even airplanes.
A common misconception non-pilots have about simulators is how “easy” it is to operate them. They are indeed relatively easy to operate if the objective is to make a few lazy turns and frolic about in the “open sky”. But if the intent in using the simulator is to execute any kind of a maneuver with even the least bit of precision, the task immediately becomes quite daunting.
And if the aim is to navigate to a specific geographic location hundreds of miles away while flying at over 500 MPH, 30,000 feet above the ground the challenges become virtually impossible for an untrained pilot. For one, even touching the steering wheel (the yoke) of the airplane slightly at some 500 mph will put the airplane way off course.
For a person not conversant with the practical complexities of pilotage, a modern flight simulator could present a terribly confusing and disorienting experience. These complex training devices are not even remotely similar to the video games one sees in amusement arcades, or even the software versions available for home computers.
In order to operate a modern flight simulator with any level of skill, one has to not only be a decent pilot to begin with, but also a skilled instrument-rated one to boot — and be thoroughly familiar with the actual aircraft type the simulator represents, since the cockpit layouts vary between aircraft.
Once you’ve rotated, climbed out, and reached cruising altitude in a simulator (or real airplane), and find yourself en route to some distant destination (using sophisticated electronic navigation techniques), the situation changes drastically: the pilot loses virtually all external visual reference cues, and is left entirely at the mercy of an array of complex flight and navigation instruments to provide situational cues (altitude, heading, speed, attitude, etc.) At some 30,000 feet above the ground is a lot different than flying at some 3,000 feet at 500 mph vs. following a highway flying a Cessna by looking out the airplane window at some 100 mph.
In the case of a Boeing 757 or 767, the pilot would be faced with an EFIS (Electronic Flight Instrumentation System) panel comprised of six large multi-mode LCDs interspersed with clusters of assorted “hard” instruments. These displays process the raw aircraft system and flight data into an integrated picture of the aircraft situation, position and progress, not only in horizontal and vertical dimensions, but also with regard to time and speed as well.
If one cannot translate this information quickly, precisely and accurately (and it takes an instrument-rated pilot to do so), one would have ZERO SITUATIONAL AWARENESS. I.e., the pilot wouldn’t have a clue where s/he was in relation to the earth. And know where the FAA radar coverage was so poor when he made his 360 degree making a turn-around to head back to New York City, could not be seen after he turned off the transponder.
Flight under such conditions is referred to as “IFR”, or Instrument Flight Rules.
Let me place this in the context of the 9/11 hijacker-pilots. These men were repeatedly deemed incompetent to solo a simple Cessna-172 — an elementary exercise that involves flying this little trainer once around the patch on a sunny day. A student’s first solo flight involves a simple circuit: take-off, followed by four gentle left turns ending with a landing back on the runway. This is as basic as flying can possibly get.
Not one of the hijackers was deemed fit to perform this most elementary exercise by himself. In fact, here’s what their flight instructors had to say about the aptitude of these budding aviators:
Mohammed Atta: “His attention span was zero.”
https://www.willthomas.net/911/911_Commission_Hearing.htm
Khalid Al-Mihdhar: “We didn’t kick him out, but he didn’t live up to our standards.”
https://100777.com/node/237
Marwan Al-Shehhi: “He was dropped because of his limited English and incompetence at the controls.”
https://www.the7thfire.com/Politics%20and%20History/9-11/9-11_hijackers_still_alive.htm
Salem Al-Hazmi: “We advised him to quit after two lessons.”
https://www.willthomas.net/Books_Videos/911_Investigations_Stand_Down.htm
Hani Hanjour: “His English was horrible, and his mechanical skills were even worse. It was like he had hardly even ever driven a car.
I’m still to this day amazed that he could have flown into the Pentagon. He could not fly at all.”
https://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hanjour.html
Now let’s take a look at American Airlines Flight 77 that allegedly flew into the Pentagon. Passenger/hijacker Hani Hanjour presumably rises from his seat midway through the flight, viciously fights his way into the cockpit with his cohorts, overpowers Captain Charles F. Burlingame and First Officer David Charlebois, and somehow manages to toss them out of the cockpit (for starters, very difficult to achieve in a cramped environment without inadvertently impacting (slightly touching) the yoke and thereby disengaging the autopilot).
One would correctly presume that this would present considerable difficulties to a little chap with a box cutter—Burlingame was a tough, burly, ex-Vietnam F4 fighter jock who had flown over 100 combat missions. Every pilot who knows him says that rather than politely hand over the controls, Burlingame would have instantly rolled the plane on its back so that Hanjour would have broken his neck when he hit the floor.
But let’s ignore this almost natural reaction expected of a fighter pilot and proceed with this charade. Imagine that Hanjour overpowers the flight deck crew, removes them from the cockpit and takes his position in the captain’s seat.
The weather reports say it was fairly clear, so let’s say Hanjour experienced a perfect Ceiling and Visibility Unlimited day. Below him is a murky brownish-grey-green landscape, virtually devoid of any significant surface detail, while the aircraft he was now piloting was moving along, almost imperceptibly and in eerie silence, at around 500 mph. He wouldn’t have had a clue as to where, precisely, he was. There’s nothing there to give him any real visual cues.
Mr. Hanjour would be forced to divert his attention to his instrument panel, where he’d be faced with a bewildering array of instruments—nothing like he had seen in a Cessna 172. He would then have to very quickly interpret his heading, ground track, altitude, and airspeed information on the displays before he could even figure out where in the world he was, much less where the Pentagon was located in relation to his position.
After all, before he can crash into a target, he has to first find the target.
But, for the sake of discussion let’s stretch things beyond all plausibility and say that Hanjour—whose flight instructor claimed “couldn’t fly at all”—somehow managed to figure out their exact position on the American landscape in relation to their intended target. Once he had determined exactly where he was, he would need to figure out where the Pentagon was located in relation to his rapidly-changing position. He would then need to plot a course to his target (one he cannot see with his eyes—remember, our ace is flying solely on instruments).
In order to perform this bit of electronic navigation, he would have to be very familiar with Instrument Flight Rules procedures. None of these alleged hijackers even knew what a navigational chart looked like, much less how to how to plug information into flight management computers (FMC) and engage LNAV (lateral navigation automated mode).
To get around this little problem, the official storyline suggests these men manually flew their aircraft to their respective targets. But let’s assume Hanjour disengaged the autopilot and auto-throttle and hand-flew the aircraft to its intended target on instruments alone until such time as he could get a visual fix.
According to FAA radar controllers, “Flight 77” then suddenly pops up over Washington DC and executes an incredibly precise diving turn at a rate of 360 degrees/minute while descending at 3,500 ft/min, (to hide from FAA radar) at the end of which “Hanjour” allegedly levels out at ground level. Oh, I almost forgot: He also had the presence of mind to turn off the transponder in the middle of this incredibly difficult maneuver.
The maneuver was in fact so precisely executed that the air traffic controllers at Dulles refused to believe the blip on their screen was a commercial airliner. Danielle O’Brian, one of the air traffic controllers at Dulles who reported seeing the aircraft at 9:25 said, “The speed, the maneuverability, the way that he turned, we all thought in the radar room, all of us experienced air traffic controllers, that that was a military plane.”
(https://www.lookingglassnews.org/viewstory.php?storyid=4084)
And then, all of a sudden we have magic. Voila! Hanjour finds the Pentagon sitting squarely in his sights right before him.
The very same challenges mentioned above would have faced the pilots who flew the two 767s into the Twin Towers, in that they, too, would have had to have first found their targets.
Again, these chaps, too, miraculously found themselves spot on course. And again, their “final approach” maneuvers at over 500 MPH are simply far too incredible to have been executed by pilots who could not solo basic training aircraft.
“Regarding your comments on flight simulators, several of my colleagues and I have tried to simulate the ‘hijacker’s’ final approach maneuvers into the towers on our company 767 simulator. We tried repeated tight, steeply banked 180 turns at 500 mph followed by a fast rollout and lineup with a tall building. More than two-thirds of those who attempted the maneuver failed to make a ‘hit’.
How these rookies who couldn’t fly a trainer pulled this off is beyond comprehension.”
Conclusion
The writers of the official storyline expect us to believe, that once the flight deck crews had been overpowered, and the hijackers “took control” of the various aircraft, their intended targets suddenly popped up in their windshields as they would have in some arcade game, and all that these fellows would have had to do was simply aim their airplanes at the buildings and fly into them.
Most people who have been exposed only to the official storyline have never been on the flight deck of an airliner at altitude and looked at the outside world; if they had, they’d realize the absurdity of this kind of reasoning.
https://www.veteranstodayarchives.com/2010/08/13/nila-sagadevan-911-the-impossibility-of-flying-heavy-aircraft-without-training/
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